Shudder Puts The Screaming In Streaming Video

Oct 28, 2019
Originally published on October 28, 2019 5:37 pm

How mainstream is horror today? Frighteningly mainstream. Let's just look at some of the biggest smash hits recently on television and streaming video: Shows like Stranger Things, American Horror Story and The Walking Dead all fit into to this once-maligned genre.

To feed this hunger for horror, AMC — the channel behind The Walking Dead — decided to create a dedicated streaming service called Shudder, featuring horror movies, shows, even documentaries. Craig Engler is the general manager for Shudder, and he says the service is taking off because horror has lots of fans, it's a bargain to make, and more people like it than they realize. "People think horror is just the Halloween movies, or Friday the 13th," he says. And you will find those classics on Shudder — but also original programming like the wildly successful series Creepshow, inspired by the stories of Stephen King.

Had AMC put Creepshow on cable, it would've doubtless attracted thousands, if not millions, more eyeballs, but the idea was to lure viewers into the next evolution of media. Audiences are gravitating away from old-fashioned cable channels and towards streaming video — that's why Disney, HBO, Apple and every other massive media company on the planet is adding or expanding streaming services right now. Over the past few years, AMC has launched several streaming services — including Shudder.

"One of the intentions with Creepshow was to draw people to Shudder," says Greg Nicotero, the executive producer of both Creepshow and The Walking Dead. Luring horror fans with a familiar and beloved Stephen King property was the first step, he says, towards convincing them to stick around for thousands of hours of smart, interestingly curated horror, ranging from an Indonesian box office hit called Satan's Slaves ("It was so crazy good, and I loved it so much!" he says) to a feminist rape-revenge movie by French filmmaker Coralie Fargeat called, well, Revenge.

Revenge is Fargeat's first feature film. And even though Shudder's a relatively small streaming service, she says it was in some ways a better place for her movie than Netflix. "You have so many movies and so many algorithms that make you appear or disappear," she observes about Netflix — but Shudder's movies appear in front of audiences invested in seeing them.

Shudder was founded in 2015. Four years later, the service has the top three best reviewed horror movies of the year so far, according to Rotten Tomatoes, and you can only watch them on Shudder. (One of them, Tigers Are Not Afraid, was made by Issa López, another female director. Based in Mexico City, she spoke to NPR this summer about her darkly thoughtful fairy tale of children orphaned — and literally haunted — by Mexican drug cartels.)

"Horror travels super well. The things we're afraid of are universal." - Craig Engler

"Horror travels super well," says Shudder general manager Craig Engler. "The things we're afraid of are universal." Exactly how universal would be more clear if Shudder released its subscription information — but those numbers remain shrouded in mystery, per company policy. "Which is a shame," Engler says, "because the metrics are awesome. We are growing by leaps and bounds. Almost every month, we set new records in terms of viewership, in terms of subscriber acquisition."

That doesn't surprise Laura Martin, a media analyst for Needham, "because," she says, "the fans are so rabid." Forget competing with giant services like Netflix, Martin says. It's smarter to focus on enthusiastic fan bases that love relatively cheap content — and promoting it to each other. Martin points to another streaming service owned by AMC, Acorn TV, which enjoys a similarly passionate group of fans. They're always starving for their preferred content, and essentially advertise it via word of mouth. The difference? Acorn fans are into high-end British television, especially mysteries. "So I actually think this is sort of an inspired choice that AMC is pursuing here," she says.

In the Venn diagram of British mystery-lovers and fans of horror movies there's another surprising commonality, says Engler: "There's a huge overlap between Shudder members and people who read books." It's a rare demographic admission that gives horror fans an eerily shared interest not only with British TV fans — but also NPR listeners.

This story was edited for radio by Nina Gregory and adapted for the Web by Petra Mayer

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Some of TV's biggest hits over the past few years have been ridiculously scary.

(SOUNDBITE OF SCREAM)

SHAPIRO: Take "American Horror Story," "Stranger Things," "The Walking Dead." Now, just in time for Halloween, NPR's Neda Ulaby looks at an upstart streaming service feeding the hunger for horror.

NEDA ULABY, BYLINE: We've already got Netflix, Amazon, YouTube, so why a place just for horror? Craig Engler knows. He's the general manager for Shudder. This specialty streaming service is taking off, he says, because, well, one, horror has a lot of fans. Two, it's a bargain to make, and three, more people like it than they realize.

CRAIG ENGLER: People think horror is just the "Halloween" movies or "Friday The 13th."

ULABY: But horror is also Alfred Hitchcock's "Psycho" and the "Alien" movies and "The Silence Of The Lambs." And it's Stephen King.

(SOUNDBITE OF TV SHOW, "CREEPSHOW")

UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR #1: (As character) Daddy, what's happened to you?

UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR #2: (As character) I don't know.

ULABY: Right now, the biggest hit on Shudder is "Creepshow," a series inspired by Stephen King's short stories.

(SOUNDBITE OF TV SHOW, "CREEPSHOW")

UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR #3: (As character) I'm going to call the doc.

UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR #2: (As character) Don't you dare.

GREG NICOTERO: I think one of the intentions with "Creepshow" was to draw people to Shudder.

ULABY: That's "Creepshow's" executive producer Greg Nicotero. He also produces the smash cable hit "The Walking Dead" on AMC. AMC created Shudder four years ago, partly because of "The Walking Dead's" stunning success. The idea is cornering the market on smart, interesting horror with a place where fans like Nicotero can scratch their itch for scares with, for example, a twisty ghost story that was a box-office hit in Indonesia.

(SOUNDBITE OF FILM, "SATAN'S SLAVES")

UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR #4: (As character, speaking Indonesian).

NICOTERO: "Satan's Slaves" - it was so crazy good, and I loved it so much.

ULABY: Because of the tightness of its focus, Shudder can be a great place for first-time feature directors to show their films. Coralie Fargeat is French. Her feminist horror thriller is called "Revenge," and she told me why it's better to be on Shudder than Netflix.

CORALIE FARGEAT: You have so many movies and so many algorithm that make you appear or disappear or you don't knows.

ULABY: Shudder puts you in front of the eyeballs that want to see your work, she says. The top two best-reviewed horror movies of the year, according to the website Rotten Tomatoes, stream only on Shudder. One is by another female director from Mexico City.

(SOUNDBITE OF FILM, "TIGERS ARE NOT AFRAID")

UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR #5: (As character, speaking Spanish).

ULABY: "Tigers Are Not Afraid" is a darkly gripping fairy tale about children orphaned by drug cartels.

(SOUNDBITE OF FILM, "TIGERS ARE NOT AFRAID")

UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR #6: (As character, speaking Spanish).

ENGLER: Horror travels super well, right? The things that we're afraid of are universal.

ULABY: Shudder's general manager Craig Engler.

But streaming services face terrifying competition now from Apple, Disney, HBO and more. They're all adding or expanding streaming as we speak. Laura Martin analyzes media for Needham. She believes Shudder and its parent company AMC are taking a smart approach.

LAURA MARTIN: Because the fans are so rabid...

ULABY: Forget competing with giant services like Netflix, Martin says - smarter to focus on enthusiastic fan bases that love relatively cheap content and promoting it to each other. Oddly, that makes Shudder not unlike another AMC streaming service that specializes in high-end British television.

MARTIN: So I actually think this is sort of an inspired choice that AMC is pursuing here.

ULABY: Viewers seem to agree. That service, Acorn TV, has more than a million subscribers. Shudder's numbers remain publicly shrouded in mystery, says its general manager Craig Engler.

ENGLER: Which is a shame because the metrics are awesome. We are growing by leaps and bounds. Almost every month, we set new records in terms of viewership, in terms of subscriber acquisition.

ULABY: When it comes to who actually subscribes, Engler did disclose that almost half are women. And...

ENGLER: There's a huge overlap between Shudder members and people who read books.

ULABY: Giving horror fans something eerily in common with fans of British TV shows and fans of NPR.

Neda Ulaby, NPR News.

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